Today is the 16-month anniversary of the passing away of Michael
Jackson. It is also the last day for a while I will be able
to put up a blog. To leave it like THIS breaks my heart.
I did what I said I was going to do. I went back over the interview
with Oprah and Lisa Marie . . . SEVERAL times. I did what someone
else suggested I do and study Lisa the way I did Michael. Well,
I did. It not only managed to cement my feelings from my initial
post, it added even more dread in the pit of my stomach. I am
really starting to become afraid to investigate.
Lisa Marie Presley, in the minds of many of Michaels
fans, was the one true love he had but it never was. At least
not on her part. I have tried every which way but loose to see
it (even tried loose) and I tried and I tried. I cant
do any more because what I am seeing HURTS. The more I dug the
darker I felt inside and if Michael believed there was love
there in the beginning, I cannot imagine the pain he was in.
There have been so many fantastic responses from both sides
of this issue and a learning experience. I agree that we should
be FAIR when investigating all this and I feel that I have been
even when attacked, or tried my hardest to be. What is important
to remember is that Michael is at the core of all this. This
isnt about Lisa Marie. Michael was the one murdered. Michaels
children are the ones without their father. Lisa Marie has her
children, her new Michael and her upcoming album.
Ive looked at this from the angle of a very young girl,
sheltered and possibly spoiled not really knowing marriage.
But you dont do the things she has done just out of ignorance
or immaturity. She did things to deliberately hurt. The more
videos of her I saw, the more my heart fell. Starting from my
comment yesterday after viewing a couple of these videos:
In the Diane Sawyer interview with BOTH LISA MARIE AND
MICHAEL . . . they are asked WHO popped the question . . . who
brought up marriage?
Both say, "Michael". Then Michael continues
with this story of how he asked his lawyer THEN JOHN BRANCA
if he knew Lisa Marie Presley. MICHEAL THEN SAYS, "John
says, well I represent her mother Priscilla".
Elvis Songs are in the catalog that Michael owned!
Now MICHAEL may have believed that it was his idea .
. . but lets look at what Lisa has said:
She LEFT DANNY FOR MICHAEL . . even with children. Why?
She refused to have children with Michael. Why?
She still maintains family with Danny and fought with
Michael over her vacationing with her ex husband. Why? Who iced
She says she left the marriage but then she follows him
around and writes him letters afterwards . . . why? Because
she loved him or because he still owned the Elvis songs?
She didn't seem to care that Debbie was going to give
him children before they split. After they split then she chases
him down. Michael may have entertained her (because of her children),
but I think he was quite done or they would have been back together.
I do not believe the 2005 conversation happened. I believe
that was said for the benefit of fans and to maybe throw out
a jab for anyone close to Michael who was listening.
In the Schmuley interviews, Michael also talks about
how manipulative women are. He wasn't around his brothers long
enough to see all this happening although he could have, but
what if he were talking about LMP?
Branca, according to Michael, is the connecting factor to Priscilla
Presley if not Lisa Marie. Source
Above, Michael talks about John Branca, asking
him about Lisa Marie and Brancas response that he represented
Priscilla. Lets look at these claims.
John Brancas own website mentions nothing about either
Priscilla Presley or the Presley Estate (I was told it was once
on there, but now it is off). He may have represented Priscilla
. . . she was an actress. But I dont' see him anywhere involved
in the estate:
Elvis Presley Estate has been removed as a client AS HAS JACKSON
ESTATE IS NO LONGER THERE.
Branca His client list is here. Notice that the Cobain
Estate the one reportedly handled by Howard Weitzman (not
of Brancas firm) is now credited to Branca. Cobains
estate also went through a lawsuit until Courtney Love suddenly
withdrew the complaint.
Still listed on this page though - John
Did Branca lie to Michael? Where his wheels spinning when Michael
mentioned an interest in Lisa Marie? Michael said he said this
to Branca when Lisa Marie was about eighteen years old. Michael
would have been 28 years old. So circa 1986 to 1987. This is
a year or so after Michael purchased the catalog. Branca knew
it contained Elvis songs, hes the one that did the deal.
Could Branca have found a way to contact Priscilla (assuming
that he lied to Michael about representing her when Michael
asked about LMP), Priscilla Presley appears nowhere on John
Brancas Dossier of artists represented.
I did searches on links for the Presley Estate and guess what
. . . Neither Branca nor his firm are listed for either Presley
Estate, Presley Trust or the newer formed Elvis Presley Enterprises: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley_Enterprises
Here also, no mention of Branca or his firm. But he's not connected
with the estate and neither is his firm. The only place I have
seen this is on Branca's web site and Branca could have put
it on there because he worked with PRISCILLA, which would be
disingenuous at best.
Branca - He wasn't a lawyer all that long before he started
representing Michael and he was still a relative newbie. This
is who represented and handled the Presley Trust - http://www.elvis.com/elvisology/history/elvis_estate.asp
Branca is only a few years older than Michael. I don't see Branca
mentioned anywhere in there.
However, I found this, Lisa Marie sold 85% of her fathers
estate for $100 milllion (not counting Graceland) in 2005, announcement
was made in December of the previous year Source.
Why was this done? Aside from Graceland, that is control of
trademarks, licensing, film rights, merchandising. She still
owns 15% but that is not controlling share. She got according
to the article a little over $50 million cash out of the deal,
$25 million in debts paid off and where the other $25 million
went is not mentioned. What was going on in 2005? Michaels
trial. December of 2004 it was reported on as being in the works.
Right over the trial . . . why? Any connection to that?
Some other issues I looked into from my comment on that post
Michael owns Elvis songs that maybe Priscilla believes
should be in the Graceland Library. Maybe LMP believes that
too. Branca has known since 1985 at least what
was in that ATV catalog. Michael said he asked Branca about
Lisa Marie when she was eighteen (he would have been 28) making
it circa 1986 or 1987, one to one and a half years after the
purchase. Maybe owning the Elvis songs reminded Michael of Lisa
and he began inquiring?
Michael says that John Branca would laugh and say, Ill
do my best, Michael asked any luck when he
saw Branca again and Branca would say Nothing yet.
Either John Branca didnt bother, John Branca didnt
really represent Priscilla like he told Michael he did, or .
. . Branca was a bit consumed with other plans and getting Michael
hooked up with a girlfriend was the least of them.
Lisa Marie in that same video, which Michael corroborates, that
they dated for four months before they got married or before
Michael asked her. Since Michael hadnt crumbled
during the first allegations, the humiliating search and seizure
of person and property, criminal harassment via pictures of
his anatomy with lawyers and doctors on both sides present,
the pursuit of victims across continents hadnt
done him in emotionally, he was still performing heart stopping
concerts. Isnt the timing immaculate that John could finally
get Michael hooked up with Lisa Marie? Good for Lisa Marie .
. . she comes out from under cover, Michael promises record
deals for her but it never materializes because, that is not
in the plan.
So Lisa spends most of their marriage fighting with Michael
about having children, about going on vacations with her ex-boyfriend,
about her children flocking to Michael instead of her, about
his friends, about the time he spends with OTHER children and
She leaves Danny for Michael (she says) even though they have
She continues to vacation with Danny - with her children - without
She refuses to give Michael children after luring him into marriage
with false hope of him having children (coached?)
She makes Michael's life miserable, jealous of her own children
getting attention from Michael, etc....
Finally Michael tells her Debbie Rowe offered to have children
for him. She doesn't seem to care until AFTER they are divorced.
Who left who? There was a "dear John" letter passed
around the the internet said to be a divorce letter from Michael
to Lisa. I did find this when looking:
Btw, that leech, Henry Vaccaro (the guy who got MJ's storage
warehouse of personal belongings), stated that one of the things
in storage was a handwritten note from Michael to Lisa explaining
why he wanted an annulment. I find this very interesting.
This guy also claimed to have a copy of a letter from Katherine
Jackson to the Jehovah's Witness with harsh words since they
expelled MJ . I think Lisa Marie really thought MJ loved her
and after the divorce felt she was used by him.Source
Lets look at Lisas behavior over the years in interviews.
This interview below is after she and Michael divorced.
Lisa Marie with Diane Sawyer WITHOUT Michael -
This interview is with Oprah some twelve years after the divorce.
She was 36 in this video according to her own timeline (12 years
ago from the time she married Michael at 24 or 25 years of age).
The first couple of minutes was enough to turn my stomach. Loving?
Mocking . . . cant get any further apart than that. She
doesnt look nervous. She looks vindictive and Oprah is a
At 1.50 Lisa Marie says that someone convinced her that she
should meet Michael because it was good manners.
I wonder who THAT person was? (Branca maybe?) Especially since
she went ahead and plugged her demo and that Michael
wanted to sign her. So someone had to convince her
to meet Michael. She goes on to explain that Michael had to
disillusion her and loop her into changing
her mind about what she may have thought about him previously
(she then emphasizes used to). At 7:30 Lisa Marie
says she did NOT know Michael was going to kiss her on the awards
show and that Michael was the one that used her
not the other way around.
So we heard what Lisa had to say about Michael in various interviews.
What did Michael have to say about Lisa Marie?
Michael talks on the Schmuley tapes about "manipulative women"
and also discusses women who are in 'competition with their own
children" . . . Lisa Marie.
According to Michael, Lisa Marie DID try to get back with him
in the early months after their divorce (job not done yet? Doesn't
have catalog yet?) but Michael refuses. Lisa then uses her children
to try to get back with Michael . . . Michael entertains Lisa
because of her children NOT because of her.
Throught these YEARS that Lisa Marie says she flew all around
the world with Michael, her and her mother are trashing Michael
in interviews. Michael never, ever trashed Lisa Marie . . .
never. For someone who "didn't know any better" as
Lisa put it, Michael has let the guilty walk themselves into
their own, self-created lies.
2005, she was nowhere to be found for the trial. Debbie Rowe was. Even Frank DiLeo showed up for Michael´s trial. Lisa was busy mocking him on Larry King. She laughs and says she´s benign?
She says Michael called HER in 2005. I don't believe this. After
what weve seen, can YOU believe it? Michael would not have
wanted her back after what she did. Michael was not devoid of
intelligence, he avoided her during her attempts to get him back.
Why? Maybe he saw those interviews too? There is over ten years
spanned in these interviews in which Lisa treats Michael as a
joke and were expected to believe her sudden maturity
after he dies? Worse, yet, she wants us to believe that after
all that, MICHAEL calls her and wants her back after being treated
as a joke by her? And to top all that off with sugary bullpuckies,
were expected to believe a long conversation ensued while
making him cry by telling him she was indifferent. Who is it that
has the drug problem here?
She mentions the catalog and Michael saying people wanted to
kill him but does so in an offhanded manner . . . maybe to make
fans believe that the conversation took place. She mentions
Michael crying when she says she's indifferent. If this really
happened and she EVER loved him, where is the emotion on her
She fidgets through this whole interview, cannot hold a gaze
unless Oprah is asking HER a question or doing the talking.
And the reaction to the question about what she was thinking
when she looked down at the casket. Take a close look at that
again. She LAUGHS then quickly composes herself and gives this
broken, scratching the head that uh . . . ummm that, took
me . . . another six months to recover from.
Sure Lisa . . . we believe you. And I have a number one album
coming out too. Its titled Try it with ONE Face.
Lady Acquarius shared this on the previous blog:
THANK YOU!!! (Big hugz too.) You have just echoed my entire
reasoning for why this recent interview has made me heartsick.
In soooo many ways, I feel that Michael's proverbial "last
straw" in the trust department when it came to women can
certainly be directly pointed in Lisa Marie's direction. Even
worse, because like I'd stated earlier, Michael was NOT one to
allow his heart to override his head, it IS extremely likely that
this is also the source of LMP's true bitterness. Not only did
Michael "ice" her out, he NEVER let her back in either!
I have trouble believing the legitimacy of the supposed
2005 phone conversation too. Why? I remember LaToya having stated
in a past interview where she was asked about LMP and Michael,
that the ONLY reason why LMP was still allowed to accompany Michael
here and there was due to their appearances being booked (via
appointments) prior to their divorce.
But, also noteworthy... LaToya had also claimed that there
marriage was NOT for love. Rather...it was a business agreement,
in return LMP would be helped launch her own career. I don't know
what to think of that part though. LaToya HAS been known to stretch
truths and tell "whoppers", so I don't know if that
part can be believed. I believe this interview is still on YT
In any case, what if Michael had believed his relationship
was "real" but LMP was only going along with things
due to a contract with Branca and/or Sony??? Worse... did Michael
eventually "catch on" to the BS??? Hmm...
One more thing, the Michael tapes, Michael also states,
"Lisa knows her own mind." He says little else about
her. He seemed more emotionally animated while discussing Brooke
Shields than he did LMP! WHY, if there was oh so much love between
From Anapassionheart posted by Truthbtold -
That aired on 10/10/2006. Lisa and her husband Michael
flew to Graceland from Hawaii just to open Graceland for a private
Oprah tour and gave her what seemed to be complete access to all
Elvis' vaulted private collection. It's location is so secret
that Lisa Marie would not allow the camera to show us where it
was. But Oprah and her crew can know. She lays out a big buffet
of Elvis' favorite foods for Oprah. They sit around Elvis' table
where nobody but family has eaten since he died. Oprah reveals
that it really is true that her grandmother was a Presley.
Posted by SandyK found on AllForLove Blog
Interviews like this, in which family members and people
close to him like Lisa Marie, continue to feed into the drug
addict line, can ultimately affect the trials outcome
if enough people come to believe that Murray was simply a pawn
in Michaels own addiction and downward spiral. And yes,
interviews like this can be entered as evidence, if the defense
requests it and the judge grants it!"
Lisa Marie and Oprah – Oprah gets the Graceland Tour
Lisa Marie with David Letterman
Lisa Marie on Channeling her father. Part 3 of the Larry King Interview
Lisa Marie laughs toward the end of this when
asked if she can feel her fathers spirit. Lisa Marie laughs
and says they are getting into controversial territory, then
says she doesnt want to answer.
Oddly enough, someone whom I really dont consider the
epitome of honesty either, emails someone in 2007 about her
experiences with Lisa Marie.
Conversations on Lisa Marie, pro and con here They are
also posting links to You tube videos. Source
Far be it from me to trust Karen Faye at this point, after
defending the stalkers, but if it were not for Michael saying
this himself on the Schmuley tapes (he doesnt name Lisa
Marie, only refers to a woman who is jealous of her own children,
and manipulative women). At the source is a copy of an email
supposedly sent to someone by Karen Faye in April of 2007. Source
Lady Acquarius, on top of this one, also posted this:
This is regarding my previous posting about what Karen Faye
had written in an email about LMP. Unfortunately, this is what
happens when Karen Faye gets caught in her own BS stew...
@wingheart Karen, there has been some HATEFUL comments that
you've made about LMP going around, can you confirm if you wrote
them or not? about 5 hours ago via web
@wingheart Alright, but can you confirm if you wrote this or
not? about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@wingheart Well, can you confirm it? about 4 hours ago via web
in reply to wingheart
@wingheart The hateful comments you've made about LMP have been
going around since 2007...it'd be great if you'd finally confirm/deny
them.. about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@wingheart Yes, but when I read those comments, they just make
you look like a huge hypocrite. (no offense) about 4 hours ago
via web in reply to wingheart
@wingheart Okay, but is it true that you hated LMP at one point?
Going as far as saying "Lisa Marie is a very evil little
girl." (excerpt) about 4 hours ago via web in reply to
@wingheart The excerpts also said MJ was the most miserable
man ever when he was married to LMP & she was horrible to
him. Is THAT true? about 4 hours ago via web<
@wingheart Oh my goodness, I'd just like a nice yes or no. Not
a game at all, why are you becoming so defensive? So, they must
be true then? about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@InfinityFusion I did say things I believed to be true. But
once LMP and I spoke & shared info, we came to understand
things more clearly about 5 hours ago via TweetList! in reply
@InfinityFusion no I can't, I have not read what is being passed
around. I do not intend to either. I am not interested in this
fan game. about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion
@InfinityFusion LMP and I are clear, and that is what is important
to me. We have made our peace &through understanding, became
close about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion
@InfinityFusion People change when they can open up and see
the bigger picture. If you call that hypocritical, I really
don't care. about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion<
@InfinityFusion I call it "enlightened" about 4 hours
ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion
@InfinityFusion I am a better person now, and so is LMP, because
we each have grown and learned. Neither of us is perfect yet
;) about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion
@InfinityFusion what part don't you understand about: I AM NOT
GOING TO PLAY YOUR FAN GAME about 4 hours ago via TweetList!
in reply to InfinityFusion
These are the links to the screen shots in case that twitlonger
post disappears. Thank you again Ladyaquarius.
Another interview in Rolling Stone compliments
of Johannas link posted by Ladyacquarius. Source
It is important to read the comments on this blog here Michael Jackson – Interpreting Lisa Marie
because there are some very good links there, discussion on
Michaels licensing of an Elvis song in a Viagra commercial
and more. This blog update is now eight Word pages. I have to
move and I will not be able to post another blog update probably
until we are moved in and that will not be until next week.
I may do a short one on the issue of Branca not paying Katherine
Jackson since that was also brought to my attention but my husbands
patience is wearing thin and we are starting to bark at each
other. Thank God we can look each other in the face and laugh
when we realize what we are doing. I am lucky.
I wish Michael had been. It hurts to know he was not.
Lisa Marie, I honestly do not know what to say to you. I had
hoped you were a friend. I had hoped you had loved Michael .
. . as much as you could. And I did try lady, but I saw no evidence
that you even know what that is, even now with four children.
You have spent the majority of your time bashing Michael in
the media. In the process you have leveled yourself with the
likes of Taraborrelli, Friedman, Sawyer, Bashir and any number
of tabloids out there.
Did it make you feel better? Was mocking him during the most
painful and frightful time of his life fulfilling of your need
for satisfaction? Is it your style to kick someone when they
are down and crawling on their knees in the process of getting
Know Lisa Marie, that this is ONLY my opinion based on everything
I have seen in your interviews and heard come out of your mouth.
I was once your ally, but my opinion of you has crashed completely
through the floor.
I dont expect you to pay any attention or care about
what I think. After all, you cared not how one of the most giving,
gracious and loving men I have ever studied thought about your
actions, why should you care about mine?
A tip for you . . . free. Michael sold records because he didnt
have to go on talk shows, bashing ex-spouses for attention.
Michael sold records because people love him. People LOVE him
because his actions spoke much louder than his words. Its
the heart that comes through and yours my friend, needs a lot
of work. I tried finding heart in you. I wanted you to have
been a good person. I wanted for ONCE to know that someone loved
Michael back. Unfortunately for Michael, it wasnt you.
I am glad this is the last blog for a while because this one
about killed me. When the truth comes out . . . if it ever does
in my lifetime, I hope Michaels children never have to
hear the things Lisa Marie said about their father. And I hope
Lisa Maries children never hear it either, since they
seemed to adore him as much as Michaels fans.
and it's a good read but I have read Brett's side of the story
before and he went as far as stating that she pursued Michael
vigorously. This flies in the face of all of her claims that
he manipulated her into the relationship. She wanted Michael
and this was at a time when Michael was only her career mentor.
Read the part of this blog that starts with: "November
1992, They met at Brett Livingstone's house; Excerpt from Child
Bride by Suzanne Finstad".