July 1, 2010
Here is the actual text regarding this incident from All That
Glitters! Dave Edwards was kind enough to provide the text and
I have also left his commentary intact for the most part since
he offers up some very good insights on these passages (and
where appropriate, Ive added my own parenthetical comments
Evan did not ask MJ about whether hes
screwing MJ after he drugged him at his house. He
actually asked him at MJs hideout condo. On
May 21st, 1993 they were all there (MJ, Evan, Jordie,
and his younger brother), and here is what happened. From All
That Glitters, pages 29-30:
With both boys out of earshot, Evan turned toward Michael.
Can I talk to you for a moment?
They sat close, Evan poised on the edge of a couch, Michael
deep in a velvety chair.
I had planned to work up to it, Evan recalled, kind
of beat around the bush for a while. But face to face it seemed
phony, and I found myself at a loss for words.
After an awkward silence Evan decided the best thing to do was
to jump right in, like he would with Dave or Mark or any good
friend. Michael would either be offended or hed appreciate
Locking eyes with the star, Evan blurted it out. Are you
f***ing my son up the ass?
Michael giggled like a schoolgirl, but never batted a false
eyelash. I never use that word,, he responded.
Surprised at what had tumbled from his own mouth, Evan fought
to keep from blushing and stay on track. Then exactly
what is the nature of your relationship?
I dont understand it myself, the star admitted.
It must be cosmic!
Cosmic? At first Evan thought Michael evasive. Then it dawned
on him that the singer was referring to the three chance encounters
he and Jordie had had over the years. Does he really believe
they were preordained, Evan wondered?
Well, what if someday you decide you dont want to
hang around with Jordie anymore? Hed really be hurt.
Oh, no, Ill always want to be with Jordie. I could
never hurt him.
As they talked, Evan was on the lookout for signs of insincerity.
But he detected none. My bluntness didnt faze him
in the least, Evan said. He was aware that the relationship
looked strange and he understood why I had to ask. But
it was Michaels innocent, giggly response that convinced
Evan that the star was being straight with him. Suddenly
it seemed so obvious. Of course he wouldnt use that word.
Hes asexual. What use would he have for it? (So
if Evan genuinely believed Michael to be asexual, why was he
so quick to assume something was up with Jordie? Sorry, but
being a pedophile and being asexual are completely mutually
exclusive things-one cant be both! This also wouldnt
appear to support my theory about Michael and June-and Evans
suspicions of it-unless he was trying very hard to convice HIMSELF,
at that point. Which is possible).
Months later, after the scandal broke, Evan commented on that
conversation. There was no anal sex involved, so technically
Michael wasnt lying. But he knew what I meant and he gave
no hint that there was a physical side to the relationship.
He was brilliant. He stayed right in character: a little shy,
a little embarrassed, but no anger or defensiveness.
Now, what initially made Evan suspicious is when June called
Evan from Neverland on April 9th, 1993 (pages 16-17)
and told him that they are BOTH going to lose control
over Jordie to MJ. She didnt suspect anything sexual,
but just felt that Jordie was spending too much time with MJ.
Here is the part where Evan drugs MJ on Memorial Day weekend
1993, from page 45:
Monique reiterated her opinion that Michael was taking up
too much of Jordies life. But this time she offered an
additional observation. Jordie doesnt even know
youre in the room, Evan. Cant you see whats
going on? Theyre in love! (Does this not strike
anyone as odd? Who the heck uses language like that for discussing
an adults relationship with a child!).
The minute the L word left Moniques mouth,
Evan believed she was right. It should have been a dead
giveaway, Evan recalled weeks later, when Jordie
came walking in the house that night wearing tight black pants,
white socks, black loafers and a black fedora, and Michael came
walking in right behind him wearing the same thing. Or when
they ran off in to the living room together after dinner and
closed the door behind them, leaving me to work alone on the
history paper. Or that Michael never once called Jordie by name,
referring to him instead by affectionate nicknames like Applehead
and Doo Doo Head. (Evan obviously hadnt spent
much time around Neverland; otherwise, he would have known that
Michael and ALL of the kids referred to each other by those
Do you think its physical? Evan asked his wife.
I dont know? Monique answered. It could
just be infatuation. But whatever it is, its not good
At this point, Monique suggested that Evan straight up ask Jordie
if it was sexual, and Evan agreed. One morning, MJ woke up with
a splitting headache, and sent Jordie to seek Evans help.
Evan was in the bathroom, when Jordie sought his help (pages
Ill be there in a minute. Evan said, and as Jordie
turned to leave, added, Hey Jordie, are you and Michael
Thats disgusting! Jordie reacted. Im
not into that!
Just kidding. (Okay, I know he explains why he
did it, but still
that whole conversation just totally
creeped me out!).
Evan explained it this way. It was crude, but I was so
anxious, I decided on the spur of the moment to say it because
I figured it would elicit an unplanned response. Jordies
repulsion brought Evan great relief. So much so, that he felt
quite chipper as he walked down the hall to check on Michael.
The singer was walking in circles, holding his head. I
didnt sleep all night, he complained. Ive
got a bad headache. I get them all the time.
Do you know what causes them? Evan asked.
Yeah, Ive had them ever since my hair caught fire.
They said its from the surgery.
Evan offered the standard remedies, aspirin and Tylenol, but
Michael insisted they had no effect on him and that his doctor
usually gave him a shot of something, he didnt know what.
When Evan suggested that the call his doctor, Michael refused.
He didnt want to bother the man on a holiday weekend.
Instead, he asked Evan if he could give him something stronger.
Evan rattled off a list of drugs to see if he could find out
what Michaels doctor used. When he mentioned Demerol,
Michael said that sounded familiar. Evan did not use Demerol
in his practice, so he called Mark Torbiner for advice. The
anesthesiologist suggested an injection of Toradol, a
non-narcotic equivalent to Demerol, and offered to pick some
up at Evans office and bring it to his house.
Evan injected 30mg, half the maximum dose, into Michaels
gluteus. (So Evan was playing doctor?). But one hour later the
star claimed he was still in a lot of pain, so Evan administered
the remaining half and instructed him to lie down and try to
Keep an eye on him, Evan told Jordie. Itll
take a few minutes to kick in. Ill be right back.
When I went back to check on him, maybe ten minutes later,
Evan recalled, He was acting weird, babbling incoherently
and slurring is speech. Toradol is pretty safe drug, and I thought
that either he was having a rare reaction or had taken another
drug and was having a combination reaction. (Or maybe
he was given something else altogether?).
Other than the drunk-like symptoms, Michaels pulse and
respirations were normal and he appeared to be in no real danger.
So Evan took no further action.
But Jordie was scared. He had seen his friend acting strange
before, but never like this.
Dont worry, Evan assured his son, Right
now Michaels the happiest person in the world. All we
need to do is keep him awake and talking until the drug wears
Four hours and a serious case of cottonmouth later, Michael
began to sober up. While Jordie was downstairs fetching water,
Evan decided to take advantage of Michaels still uninhibited
but somewhat coherent condition. Hey, Mike, I was just
.I mean, I dont care either way, but I
know some of your closest people are gay, and I was wondering
if youre gay too? (This is the big WTF moment!).
Youd be surprised about a lot of people in this
town, Michael mumbled, as he rattled off the names of
a few prominent Hollywood players who were still in the closet.
(Poor Mike, but I have to confess, the thought of Michael
babbling incoherently about who was and wasnt in
the closet was kind of funny
well, okay, it was a
little bit funny, anyway).
Evan tried to get back on track before Jordie returned. He stroked
Michaels hair and reassured him, I dont care
if youre gay, Mike. I just want you to know you can tell
me if you are.
Uh-uh, Michael slurred. Not me. (Lol!
Evan wasnt pulling THAT one over on him!).
Given Michaels willingness to talk openly about everyone
elses sexuality, his consistent denial about being gay
reinforced Evans belief that the singer was asexual. (As
if there were only two choices? Gimme a break!).
Michael remained in bed all day, with Jordie sitting by his
side on the edge of the single bed. Cody joined them about ten,
and by ten-thirty the three boys were fast asleep.
Evan was tired, too, but the thought that Michael might awake
during the night and take more drugs caused him to get up several
times to check on the star. On his third visit, around
3am, Evan found the boys still fast asleep. But Jordie was now
in Michaels bed, spooning, with Michaels arm wrapped
tightly around the boy, his hand resting on the boys crotch
on the outside of the covers.
Ever so gently, Evan picked up Michaels arm and moved
it to the side, then slowly pulled back the covers. Thank God!
They were both fully clothed.
Evan dozed off at dawn, but he and Monique were awakened shortly
thereafter by Cody crawling into their bed. Whats
the matter, Honey? Monique asked.
Is it OKAY for two men to get married? the boy asked.
Evan and Monique were stunned. They asked why he wanted to know,
but the child was in no mood to reveal his thoughts, only to
cuddle up and cling to his mother.
In the weeks that followed, Evan and Monique tried again to
find out what Cody had seen or heard. But the boy remained secretive
and depressed. Three months later, during dinner one night,
Cody turned to his parents and announced, Michael Jackson
is bad. He did bad things to Jordie. After that release
the little boy began to perk up.
A picture is worth a thousand words. And the sight of his son
in bed with Michael finally made it clear to Evan that he must
end their relationship. Even if there is no sex, Jordies
personality had been seriously altered. As he morphed day by
day into a pint-sized clone of Michael, he withdrew further
and further from his family and friends.
Evans initial reaction was to separate them then and there,
but he and Monique talked it over and agreed that a sudden split
could be traumatic and might cause Jordie to bond even deeper
On a more practical level, June had legal custody of Jordie
and controlled his daily routine. They would need to coordinate
with her for a separation to have any effect.
Monique insisted, however, and Evan agreed, that Michael must
be told that day that he could not move in with them. Not wanting
to arouse the stars suspicion, lest he assert even more
control over Jordie, Evan lied.
You know, Mike, I checked with the building department
and they said were not zoned for an addition. I guess
well just have to forget
Then well build a new house, the superstar
vowed, as if it were already a done deal. Just dont
tell anyone I paid for it, okay? Itll create problems.
Notice how Evan claims that he offered MJ Tylenol and other
over the counter remedies, but MJ refused them because he wanted
something stronger. I think its total BS!!! What doctor
would give Demerol, or anything similar to that, just for a
headache??!!! My gosh, Evan gave MJ 60mg of Toradol!!! We need
to do some research on that drug!! (Hint hint!)
Also, did you notice how Evan said that it wasnt until
the third time that he checked on MJ that he caught them spooning?
That means the previous two times, Jordie was not in the bed
with MJ, but according to Evan, Jordie must have gotten in bed.
That would mean that MJ must have awoken after Evans second
checkup, and then woke Jordie up and asked him to sleep with
him. Does this even make sense?
Earlier that week, on May 22nd, Evan first proposed to
MJ the idea of building an addition to their home and MJ moving
in (page 42-43):
Earlier in the day Jordie mentioned that he and Michael no longer
wanted to live at Junes, that they wanted to move in with
him and Monique. The proposal caught Evan off guard, so he waited
to discuss it until he could collect his thoughts.
So, Jordie says that you guys want to live here?
Evan asked, as Michael re-entered the room. Michael nodded yes.
Well thats fine, but the boys room is way
too small for three people. Wed have to add a room on
to the house. Do it! Michael responded instantly.
Ill pay for it.
Out in the driveway, Jordie and Michael exchanged hugs with
Evan, Monique and Cody, then climbed into the limo for the two-minute
ride back to Junes. As they pulled away, Evan ran the
new plan by Monique.
Absolutely not! I dont want him living here.
Evan wasnt surprised. You should give him a chance.
Hes a nice guy when you get to know him.
I dont care. I dont want him living in my
house. Let him stay at Junes.
They dont want to stay at Junes anymore. They
want to stay here.
Who told you that?
Jordie. He said Michael likes it better here.
Jordie told you that?
Yeah. He also told me Michaels going to give me
a job working for his production company. (I agree
with Daves comments below-this was AFTER Evan supposedly
already suspected an inappropriate relationship between Michael
yet hes more than willing to take a position
at his production company!).
Are you going to take it?
I dont know. What do you think?
You wont be happy, I know you. Youll be living
under his thumb.
Youre probably right, but I dont want to hurt
his feelings. (And why would any father be concerned
for the feelings of a man he genuinely suspected was molesting
And Jordie, are you going to tell him he cant live here,
Thats the hard part. Id love him to live with
us. Hes the one who asked Michael to give me a job so
we can all be together (my emphasis). Im not sure
what to do. (Is that not bizarre?).
Its moot, Monique pointed out. June
will never go along with it.
Monique insisted that MJ couldnt live there, and Evan
acquiesced. But its funny how excited he was at the thought
of MJ living with him, even AFTER he initially asked
MJ if he was screwing Jordie on May 21st. (I agree; that
is totally bizarre!).
Also, did you notice how Evan says that Jordie said that MJ
would hire Evan for his production company? Personally, since
Evan was an aspiring screenwriter, I think he probably ASKED
MJ to be hired, and MJ refused, and thats what pissed
off Evan, which made MJ distance himself from Evan. Sounds plausible,
3: As far as the Sodium Amytal, here is Dimonds explanation
for it not being used, followed by Halperins explanation
for why it WAS used:
On page 62 of Be Careful Who You Love, Dimond says
Dr. Torbiners own written records from July
16, 1993 state that the boy was given a combination of Robinul
and Vistaril. Contrary to what Fisher suggested, there
is no reference in Dr. Torbiners records to the barbiturate
Further, the purchase of sodium amytal requires the filing of
specific forms with the DEA. No such forms were ever located
by anyone in law enforcement or the media. Sodium Amytal also
does not appear to be available on the black market.
Evan Chandlers brother, Ray, argued that the claims in
the GQ Story made no sense:
If my brother somehow put this story in my nephews
head, then where did all the details come from? Ray Chandler
asks. Evan didnt know what Michael Jacksons
penis looked like, but Jordie did. Evan never knew which hotels
Jackson had taken the boy to, and he certainly didnt know
what the rooms looked like inside! But ask the police. They
know that Jordies description of the rooms, down to the
bedspreads, matched exactly. Jordie gave them date, times, places,
and it all checked out.
Police investigators in the 1993 case, too, found no reason
to doubt Jordies report of molestation. We believed
everything that kid said, everything!, one LAPD detective
involved in the case told me.
Dimonds logic is extremely flawed because she assuming
that the only way to obtain this drug is under legal means,
and that it does not appear to be on the black market.
Well Diane, if it does not appear to be on the black
market, then thats a good indication that it IS
on the black market! As for the paperwork not being found, well
gee Diane, maybe Dr. Torbiner destroyed them to hide the paper
trail, or maybe he never filed them in the first place, or maybe
he hid them so well that law enforcement couldnt find
it? Also, on the previous page (pg. 61), Dimond unknowingly
confirms how easy it is to implant false memories, thus adding
credibility to the idea that Evan and his cronies told Jordie
what to say!!
Had Fishers claims been correct, Jordies allegations
would have to have been viewed as unreliable, if not highly
questionable. People are very suggestible under sodium
amytal, says Dr. Phillip Resnick, a Cleveland psychiatrist.
False memories can be easily implanted in those under
its influence. It is quite possible to implant an idea
through the mere asking of a question, says Resnick.
Okay, now lets see what Halperin has to say on page 35
By the time I had finished reading Jordan Chandlers affidavit
for the first time, I was convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt
that Michael Jackson was a sick pedophile. Children dont
make that kind of thing up. I immediately vowed to redouble
my efforts to prove his guilt.
That was before I had ever heard of sodium amytal.
From pages 43-45:
If Dimonds revelations were true, the creditability
of Jordan Chandlers claims remained intact. But she appeared
to have missed some crucial facts.
In October 1994, a senior reporter for GQ magazine named Mary
Fisher published the results of a months-long investigation
with the headline: Was Michael Jackson Framed? Among
the figures Fischer probed at length for her piece was the anesthesiologist,
Mark Torbiner, whom Evan Chandler had called on to administer
whatever drug he used to extract his sons tooth that day.
Torbiner was an anesthesiologist for hire. According to a former
patient, Nylla Jones, he boasted that he had $100 a month in
overheads and an income of $40k a month by providing services
to various dental offices around Los Angeles on a freelance
Four years before he treated Jordan Chandler, according to GQ,
Torbiner got caught in a lie and was asked to leave UCLA,
where he was an assistant professor of dentistry.
At the time of Fischers article, he was being probed by
the U.S. Drug enforcement Administration for administering drugs,
such as morphine and Demerol, to patients for pain unrelated
to dental work. This would violate his license with the Dental
Board of California, which limited his practice to dental procedures
In fact, it was Torbiners nondental practice that brought
him to the attention of Evan Chandler. He was introduced to
the anesthesiologist by Barry Rothman, who had hired Torbiner
at least eight times to apply a general anesthetic during hair
transplant procedures. Dr. James De Yarman, the doctor who performed
these hair transplants, told Fischer that he was amazed
to learn Torbiner was not a medical doctor as he believed. So
the fact that he failed to keep meticulous records of his use
of sodium amytal and that he violated normal procedures may
have been in keeping with his character. Nevertheless, it doesnt
prove that Torbiner administered the drug to Jordan Chandler.
In Dimonds book, she writes that questions about
whether Dr. Chandler implanted the molestation in Jordies
subconscious while the boy was under the influence of anesthesia
first surfaced in a story ran in GQ magazine.
Dimond may be unaware that in fact the allegations were first
reported not by Fischer, but by a newsman for KCBS-TV five months
She may also be unaware that the reporter asked Evan Chandler
whether he had used the drug on his son. Rather than denying
sodium amytal was involved, Chandler claimed he had used a drug
only to pull his sons tooth out and that while under that
drugs influence, the boy came out with the allegations.
This admission is notable for two reason: First, the drugs
effects on Jordie appear to be consistent with the use of sodium
amytal. Equally important, experts in the use of this barbiturate
claim that the drug is not customarily used in dental extractions.
Its unusual for it to be used for pulling out a
tooth. Explained Dr. John Yagiela, director of Dental
Anesthesiology Residency Program at the UCLA School of Dentistry.
It makes no sense when better, safer alternatives are
available. Fischer, however, was not content to rely on
the KCBS-TV report. She preferred to go straight to the source
and ask Mark Torbiner whether he used sodium amytal during Jordan
Chandlers procedure. Rather than deny it, he told Fischer,
If I used it, it was for dental purposes.
Ian Halperin just completely annihilated Dimonds assertion
that sodium amytal couldnt have been used because there
was no paperwork found! Evan definitively admitted
that a drug was used (although he didnt say what is was,
Jordies side effects were consistent with sodium amytal),
and Dr. Torbiner implied that it was used by saying if
I used it
. If he really didnt use it,
he would have emphatically denied it!!
Also, he was suspended from UCLA for administering Demerol &
Morphine (two drugs that MJ was addicted to later in life) for
non-dental reasons (like treating MJs headache!). He would
have given these to MJ at Evans house, except that Evan
didnt have these drugs available at his office, so he
had to settle for 60mg of Toradol!!!And isnt
it ironic that it was Barry Rothman who introduced Dr. Torbiner
to Evan Chandler?!!! What a freakin coincidence,
That brings me to my next question
Why on earth would
Evan and Dr. Torbiner admit or even imply that the drug was
used! Why didnt they just flatly deny it!
In fact, since Evan Chandler signed the confidentiality agreement
in January 1994, then what the hell was he doing being interviewed
by the reporter in May 1994 in the first place?!!! (Excellent
Ill have more information on Chandler and this episode
to pass along in Part 3!
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